Kenya: August 4th Constitution Draft YES campaigns online.
Posted on July 28, 2010 by Saidimu Ole ngais
I thought I should share with our readers about what is going about our Constitution draft campaigns. The on-line community is not asleep! They are working around the clock to discuss and explain all about the draft Constitution. The YES campaigns are on and they are gathering enormous energy everyday.. Please follow the discussions below.
Meriwas Meriwas Naini
Article 26:
(4) Abortion is not permitted
unless, in the opinion of a trained health professional, there is need for
emergency treatment, or the life or health of the mother is in danger, or if
permitted by any other written law.
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Abortion issues be respected. How many
innocent women and girls die every minute as result of cruel abortion in Kenya?
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You, Meriwas Meriwas Naini and John Melita Kamoiro like this.
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Paul Letish Do these gals need an emergency treatment? or they are doing abortion out of choice????Monday at 10:25pm · -
Leader Chris many n is any life at threat? msiba ya wish has no cry! health??? do u think u can take an abortion??Monday at 10:29pm · -
Paul Letish
@Jane, whether legal or not abortion will always be there..Ask our
girls. They will tell you nothing will change it. But this does NOT mean
I support abortion.Monday at 10:32pm · -
Meriwas Meriwas Naini
Why does this abortion debate attracts alot of men interest!. First, no
woman do abortion willingly but circumstance force them to do it.Monday at 10:45pm · -
Peter Kuria or if permitted by any other written law. — is the bone … but that should be chewed when it gets there!Monday at 10:51pm · -
Karl Siemo
Any other written law is of course penal code and section 240 of it
allows it in case of emergency treatment or when life of mother is in
danger which does not ccontradict provisions of the all article 26.Monday at 11:14pm · -
Paul Letish YEEES!!!Monday at 11:20pm ·
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Peter Kuria
I am sorry! The any other written law does not say where it is and is
open to interpretation. However, since you seem to have read the
document, I wonder if you can help to define any section (s) that can
lead to such a case… or is this left to the parliament? Please
enlighten… but what you quote is probably meant to be a joke… right?
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Karl SiemoNo
Mr.Kuria here is full section 240 of kenya penal code: “240. A person
is not criminally responsible for performing in good faith and with
reasonable care and skill a surgical operation upon any person for his
benefit, or upon an unborn c…hild
for the preservation of the mother’s life, if the performance of the
operation is reasonable, having regard to the patient’s state at the
time and to all the circumstances of the case.”article 26 did
not leave it to parliament so there is no place for parliament here, if
you want section in document to define that, you just need to know which
law punishes penal crimes, and where could other written law comes from
if section 26 did not metion parliament.Kenya penal code has
been there since 2 August 1930, even Lancatser constitution did not
touch i,t it just made sure that it conform with provisions of all its
articles even this constistution will just do the same.See MoreYesterday at 12:08am · -
Peter Kuria
thanks… that is a real find…. so what does this mean… is abortion
legalised or not following the interpretation of section,, 240…Yesterday at 12:16am · -
Karl SiemoArticle
26(4) Abortion is not permitted,…….. from this section we clearly
see that abortion is not legalised and interpretaion of section 240 of
penal code goes very well with conditions of second part of this article
26(4)….unless. …so
what this means is that even though it is not allowed there are
exceptional conditions(human, health) which are within legal provisions
in this constitution that can make it permitted.It is the case in Italy which allow abortion for the first 90 days of pregnancy, case in Mexico or any other catholic nations.See More
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Peter Kuria let me breath and come back to the penal code….Yesterday at 12:52am ·
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Michael Kibiru Life starts from conception. Period.Yesterday at 7:07am · -
Jane Lekoona
Wah!wah! I am afraid this law will b misused by every dic& harry in
the name of health proffesionals! Why didnt they specify as to who
should handle cases of emergencies.I have nothing to say but Kenyans you
are duped! Jisomee, jiamulie na jionee vyenye hii Katiba ni mbaya!
Vote wisely!Yesterday at 7:33am · -
Jane Lekoona
Wah!wah! I am afraid this law will b misused by every dic& harry in
the name of health proffesionals! Why didnt they specify as to who
should handle cases of emergencies.I have nothing to say but Kenyans you
are duped! Jisomee, jiamulie na jionee vyenye hii Katiba ni mbaya!
Vote wisely!Yesterday at 7:35am · -
Meriwas Meriwas Naini
@Jane nobody is misusing ‘health proffesional’, but in this article
refers those marginalized areas where Dr. are not available but only a
nurse or a Clinical officer are found. What wil happen to the life of a
woman or child in danger who can’t access good facilities and are far to
reach? Then they are left to die or to suffer? The nurse n clinical
officer in this case are health proffessional and they can save life.
The draft constitution therefore, is good and give room of inclusiveness
to all kenyans.Yesterday at 8:04am · -
Saidimu Ole NgaisHey
“No” Citizens… Imagine a situation my/your sister’s/mother’s life is
endangered during her pregnancy… she is advised by a professional
clinical medic that abortion is a must if she has to live.. On a moral
stand point, Citizen, wou…ld you allow the girl to die with the fetus in her womb, or you would planned abortion to safe one life?
On
the same moral platform, you have a danger approaching that might kill
both the mother and the fetus (say, two people). Government
Constitutionally provision number 1 is to protect Citizens. You are the
chief advisor to the government and you are deployed to duty on this
abortion case.. What will be your advise? Let the pregnant sister or
mother and her baby (human being whether 1 day or 18 weeks or older) in
the womb to perish in the name of protecting life or safe the mother and
risk the fetus life?
Does it make sense to safe a fetus which might not survive anyway and let the life of a full bodied human being lost so cheaply?
Here and now, it seem we are not yet there, on a platform where you discuss abortion on women’s rights point of view..
Honestly,
any rightful thinking woman in Kenya today, after 47 years of
systematic discrimination is expected to vote YES and reclaim their
rights.
This draft Constitution is for you!
Wuntai once said, get
yourself the new voters card from the Interim Independent Electoral
Commission of Kenya/IIEC, amu medung taa olorora lenkutuk ong’ata (
verbosity does not bring home the bacon).Emiaku naa lemiaru
eponu, nemeibok eyetuo ( don’t become as those who neither participate
in the seeking struggle, nor involve in the keeping).
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Saidimu Ole Ngais You can read Wuantai’s open letter published on my blog below.
http://diasporakenyan.se/2 010/04/20/edging-towards-a n-affirmative-referendum-r esult-the-spinning-of-a-fr esh-voter-registerpart-one /Yesterday at 8:12am · · -
Meriwas Meriwas Naini
@Jane and Kuria also on article 10 (1) n (2) of the draft constitution
clearly state and give national values and principles of governance and
the same note read article 260 for clear interpretation. Lets make
kenya a proud nation and vote YES.Yesterday at 8:15am · -
Michael KibiruLaws
and conditions that tend to debase human personality – a God-given
force – be they brought by the State or individuals, must be
relentlessly opposed in the spirit of defiance shown by St. Peter when
he said to the rulers of his day: ‘S…hall we obey God or man?’”
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Michael Kibiru
The moment we begin to fear the opinions of others and hesitate to tell
the truth that is in us, and from motives of policy are silent when we
should speak, the divine floods of light and life no longer flow into
our souls.Yesterday at 9:32am · -
Jane Lekoona
@Kibiru,you are my hero.Those words are exactly what I needed to put
my view across.If this ‘con’ was the best then why is half the
population not happy with it? It would bn good for the proposers to iron
out issues rather than use force & intimidation!Yesterday at 10:51am · -
Meriwas Meriwas Naini
This debate is real becoming impressive. Lets guys read the draft
constitution, and make right choices and by voting peaceful on 4th of
August.Yesterday at 11:28am · -
Karl SiemoConstitution
is not meant to be a doctrine one particular group, “life begins at
conception”: This belief is held by most Christians (not all) but not
shared by Muslims, Hindus, Traditionalists, Atheists and others. This
means it is in dire…ct contravention with the article on Freedom of Religion, which states that, no one religion can impose on another.given
that the country has less than 100 qualified gynaecologists, who would
meet the church’s requirements that “trained health professional” must
be only gynaecologist.. Do you have to leave all the way from Oldonyiro
to Nairobi to meet one in case of emergency or in case life of a mother
is in danger?Constitution is not panacea tor all our problems neighter can it make everybody happy but it can serve everybody interest.See More
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Saidimu Ole NgaisYes,
Siemo muraang, mparishore siiyie enkanashe ino naji Lekoona tanaa kore
ntoyie ee sampur naisho tellouwa ngiro naa mpaka pee eenyu Nairobi
meituma lekopita to rescue the mother in case of an emmergency!
Mpara siiyie nenkoko Jane Lekoona …tanaa
kedamu shida naata ntomonok eldonyiro! Tiaki koree aapa noo Tiranka o
noo Sokoyian napoito meata haki tenkarake ena konstitution e ukoloni
nikiata taata..
Nyoo doi natara kulo le maa amu etaa taa aitoki pee kinkoko nanu maibilifa laenak LOLEST..
VOTE entunguai enkiyeliyela.
Anijo
doi kelikita ake ntae Meriwas clauses pookin, neigero apa Leparmarai
ometaa kiparansa aitoki eitumia. Oh Wuanta Phillip orpropesa loo maasai
otii apa enguruup oo langeni oitibirita ina draft.. miningining naa
abaiki lelo?
Balance it this way if you like, the current paper does
not protect the majority because of the poor Bill of Rights. That is why
many of us are suffering.. Do you wnat to keep it?
The draft is somewhere around 98% correct. The 2% which is not correct will be amended later.
Michael,
St: Peter was an apostle in the 1st century. What was true then, in in
that world is not in the year 2010. Things have changed.
Remember the words of (God) to you/Adam and Eve, Go and conquer the world. He gave you the brains.
Then Jesus came to update laws of Moses and renew our love agreement with God.
He left us with the Holy Spirit(Knowledge) to lead us. Pee eitapaash yiook ildidingeta lekuarie o ledama.
The
Draft is all inclusive.. When you come to understand what a
multi-ethnic/religious country means, you will appreciate the fact that
law must equally protect all regardless of their colour, religion or
ethnic belonging or class or gender and sexual orientation… but maybe
most of us are not yet there?
In all cases, we strive to restore
human dignity, equality, equal respect through among others,
Constitutionally based National laws.
VOTE YES and gives Kenya a chance to be independent.See MoreYesterday at 11:50am · · -
Michael Kibiru@Karl…….I
appreciate your conviction. But lets remember that it is the role of
the government to ensure that our hospitals are well staffed & we
need not to give excuses by allowing unqualified personnel to make
decisions.contradiction…
on the two clauses on when “life begins & freedom of religion” as
you’ve put it, is a clear indication of how faulty the doc. is.Yea!
a constitution is just but a legal framework & can not solve all
our problems & can not make us all happy but we have to point out
issues that do not make us happy now.Vote Yes I vote No. If you
win we start ammendments, if we win we start negotiations & finally
we shall have one Kenya; one People; one country.God bless KenyaSee More
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Karl SiemoMr.
Kabiru…. I do appreciate too you catholisme convictions, however you
and me agree without living in autopic quagmare that our governement
have no such capacity to stuff all Hosipitals; In the far North where i
was born nearest Wamba H…ospital
is 186 Km from my village; no road, no cars and no even any element of
modern civility you will like talk about….Here we use local herb
called “lgiriai” or “lmakutikuti” to treat things like miscariage or
help women in complicated pregnacies to carry out abortion…..most
cruel even we have what is called “nkuronyo” meaning stomach pressing
till abortion occur…. Don’t tell me this is not part of Kenya. When
church pedle falsehoods and lies on abortion nobody is ready to buy it,
some us who are widely travelled know what it means when we talk about
abortion. If you are catholic ask you Italian priest friend or a Nun
what they say in Italy; a modern country with all those things you would
like us to have in our country why do they allow abortion first 90 days
of pregnancy?.@Nakerai ana anshiai ee Lekoona ntito ee
Njeriai: For you my sis, I think being health professional born and
brought up in Romate am sure you are in better position to explain to
our local folks what the document say without letting church lies
mislead you or so called “Neo-consevertism”….prop agating in america. We are Samburu and Kenyans abortion must be taken as par our local contexte without foreign ideology.
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Jane Lekoona From this discussion alone and from its own analysis,the nayers have it!Yesterday at 2:14pm ·
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Mike Lalampaaa
person is said to have AGENCY – the freedom to choose the ‘left, right,
centre or whatever’. making most, if not all choices, are a personal
responsibility. for every action, there is a reaction; cause and effect;
planting and sowing. whe…ther
it be good or bad, emotional, physical or whatever, no one escapes the
end(s) of complicity in a process, advice, decision or action/inaction.‘
it is the shoe wearer who feels its pinch’. that said, laws are made
especially for individuals or groups lacking internal capacity for
self-regulation.have a nice ‘date’ on the 4th of august 2010. even nicer when you vote ‘yes’.
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Meriwas Meriwas NainiIf
ever there will be another chance to get a good constitution that give
women and marginalized communities voices is this draft constitution. We
keep on always making noises and shouting we are marginalized and yet,
we cannot even make th…e right decisions when the opportunity presented itself.The
main reasons, why I, Jane Naini Meriwas is vote YES in this draft
constitution, it give voices to the local people, women and less
represented PERIOD; in terms of counties, women/youth representation,
minority groups etc. But if you got all the above then you vote NO
because you got nothing to lose. Vote peaceful in August 4th and make
Kenya a proud country.See MoreYesterday at 2:43pm · · 3 peopleLoading… -
Saidimu Ole Ngais
Jane Meriwas, you are my SHERO!! Continue teaching our ntasati amu
kesesewuanita ate …Tonyuaa entito o laji lang amu keibooki taa yiook
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Michael Kibiru “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” I love Kenya & Kenyans.11 hours ago ·
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Jane Lekoona Something interesting about Kenyans! We are very forgetful!9 hours ago ·
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Saidimu Ole NgaisSidai ta amu kiteyielito ajo kakwa ngae o ngae te na referandum Tinilo enjore tasaai orgisoi lenchachur….
Do you remember the Maasai narative song that goes like this:
emoda kulo lumpwa nkaipoponi aai, lemeyiolo e ele sina nkaipoponiai osin…a lenkiyio nabo nkaipoponi aai…
The
mother on a top of the tree singing to her only child that she may
sleep so that when the enemy comes in the wee hours they may find her a
sleep and thus may not see or hear her and in that way, she maybe
saved.
I have been thinking about this story and if you analyse it
deeply with honesty, the Maasai were not just talking about their enemy
at that time, they were telling the story of a citizen, who is left
without any whatsoever protection, who has to rely on her own expertise
to protect her life and that of her daughter( I don’t know why I think
it was girl) The female instinct is so powerful that she had to do what
she must do at the time so that she can do what she wants to do when
freedom and equality, justice and equal respect, solidarity and peace
runs down the mighty streams of this Godly Nation. The sixth sense owned
by women is what makes this nation stand out. For where would we be, if
it were not for the African woman?
The baby was innocent but she
must have grown up to learn that if she has to be protected, she’ll have
to gather knowledge her self and apply it appropriately to defend not
only her life, but that of her mother and sisters and brothers.
Sometimes
you may attain a wealth of knowledge but you fail to lead your people
with it, to rely on it or to share it with someone else. Others acquire
the powerful weapon and use it against their own people. They apply
knowledge to rob the single unprotected mother on the top of the trees
who’s little knowledge tells her security can be on higher grounds but
if she can only sing her baby to sleep… she might survive.. her world
is a world where human life is gain on a Royal sanctuary, lived cheaply
and maintained by charity at the mercy or mere ignorance of enemy.
The
enemy knows your weakness, your own ignorance to what matters to ya! He
comes in the night while you sleep and listen and wait out for the
right time..
That night while the enemy passed, Nkaipoponi ai
survives and she lives one more day. She was entitled the benefit of
Charity but her nights are not safe and she may have expired her enemy
controlled right to life! The enemy here is (poverty, ignorance,disease,
marginalization etc) control)
I can’t stop thinking about Nkaipoponi ai!Her mother brings her up and takes all the humiliations just to see her live.
Now
Nkaipoponi ai is strong and a live , she’s well informed and yet she
refuse to use her fantasy on what is good for her. She refuse to reclaim
her God given rights tolife, liberty and the pursuit of good life!
Nkaipoponi
ai projects some kind of scaring ignorance which sincerely does not
resemble… While her mother taught her to seek justice at all cost,
Nkaipoponi ai ignores the call and vote against her GOD given rights.
She’s
given freedom but she chooses tree tops, she’s given voice but she
retains the pipping Nkaipoponi’s mother’s voice on tree tops..
She’s
given recognition, Constitutional frame work and guidelines for justice
but she chooses to stay down in the valley of death..Sometimes
you want to tell people something but you realise they won’t get it any
way.. Who knows, who knows, it might be beneficial for them to vote NO.
My
dear NO sister and brother, as much as you want to retain STATUS QUO,
and keep suppressing Nkaipoponi mother’s dreams on restoration of human
dignity due to your selfishness, like Rev. Gitari and President Kibaki
said yesterday August 27th 2010, you are doing a DE-SERVICE to this
great Nation KENYA ( the land of the future).
I personally ask you to
evoke the spirits of Ngoto Nkaipoponi from her grave (if she had one
because I doubt owing to the human degradation systematically
perpetuated by the Colonial Constitution from which we have been
governed under since 1901 and again the current one since 1963) to help
you to sanity so that you see the agency of ,VOTING YES and make this
land of the future(Kenya=future in Kimaasai)
to attain independence once and for all.
VOTE YES.
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Jane Lekoona
Every Kenyan has a right to vote according to HIS/HER convictions.When
YES have it,I know I have so much to gain, (in fact its 90% good). but
when NO camp WINS I will say hallelujah because I will have contributed
to another round table discussion to make this constitution even more
Better! Thats my convictions.Kaa na Yako! Period!7 hours ago · -
Michael Kibiru @Ole Ngais… “emoda kulo lumpwa”haha………….we we mzsee… pole pole washa kuchokosa sisi bwana. Iko wengine mingi wanapiga Yes. hata kama mimi napiga No.( Joke)4 hours ago · · 1 personYou like this.
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Saidimu Ole Ngais Kibiru LOLEST…you’re still my brother…4 hours ago · ·
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Jane Lekoona At least we are democratic now.phew!4 hours ago · · 1 personYou like this.
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Saidimu Ole Ngais Meriwas.. tumemashua au vipi dadangu? We disagree to agree.. and its comical.. that’s the way…4 hours ago · ·
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Michael Kibiru
@Saidimu. I like you man & good relative analysis of issues I
think U need to come home in Dec. we meet sana sana kama hii katiba
itapita. Nice time.4 hours ago · · 1 personYou like this. -
Michael Kibiru
Lets now turn to Nyayo stadium where daughters and sons of my
motherland are going to make us one Kenya irrespective of our diverse
opinions, culture & beliefs. They won medals in elien countries; we
need more medals at home.3 hours ago · · 1 personYou like this. -
Jane Lekoona @ Kabiru,Me too sasa mimi niko.Please invite me those round table agreement! I like consesus!3 hours ago ·
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Saidimu Ole NgaisHehe…
Kibiru..si you know tumetoana mbali na hii debate ya katiba.. you, me,
and other guys.. we have been discussing to and fro with respect to each
other’s space.. that is what true democracy is, respect for each
other’s opinion while h…olding
unto your ideas. When one changes to another idea, you do it with all
due respect for all parties concerned… Democracy and the rule of law
then everything else falls into their natural place.
You know people
fight because of lack of language. When you feel you luck proper words
you turn around and release venom and ..lol sasa hiyo inaaribu mambo..Tuko
pamoja.. Vote yes my brother na I will come to contest for a Senate
seat and I will fight for the rights of those who are oppressed.(hej,
this is not an official message) Anyway, U know, devolution will
sincerely give every sub-nation powers that they’ll make wealth within
very short time. All tax money goes straight to thei sub-nation’s
account. We will be respected by the world if we show them we are ready
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Michael Kibiru
Sawa mzee usha sema lakini how do you think of us in Laikipia North
possibility of getting any of the proposed seats ie. Senate, Governor or
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Meriwas Meriwas Naini
Come august 4th! Make yourself proud by voting Yes. This discussion is
health and i admire your opinion guys. @Ngai, wewe ni wetu, tumetoka
mbali na kaimpoponi ai ah ah ah…and we should leave a legacy. @Jane
big up gal, the draft constitution got all that we need as women
anything else late. @Kibiru wewe ni youth, this katiba empower u fully,
vote wisely and be a role model.3 hours ago · · 1 personYou like this. -
Michael Kibiru
@Jane…… washa hiyo maneno. Iinasema tu that the government shall
provide employment for the youth. Bado sijarithika na hiyo statement
lakini najua itapita hata nikipiga No. na ikiwa nitapata job sawa lakini
sitarijii sana.3 hours ago · -
Jane Lekoona
@jane we should fight for our democratic space from both sides, ntoye
ee lokop.we should fight until we can fight no more! Cheers!3 hours ago · -
Saidimu Ole NgaisI
am in heavy dialogue with Mwangi Kiunjuri.:) we need more support and
the LW MP as well… they must support us to acquire our own majority in
the name of justice and solidarity with the marginalized groups. The
wananchi of the Laipia Wes…t
and East are actually accepting the fact that for us to grow us a
country, we need to let the pastoralist manage their local affairs. You
know why? because the pastoralists employs 40% workers in this country.Cattle
keepers contributes up-to 60% of the BNP. If we(country) continue
mismanaging this powerful resource, we may not lead a sustainable
economical development. Their roads should actually been modernized long
time ago… but who was your representer?Hiyo council ya Nanyuki pia ni yetu.. and they are collecting a lot of revenue everythime I sell a goat or cow etc.
And above all, we are still working on LNC demand and we have not yet given up.
The
new law will give us even more powers, Bill of Rights shall make us
powered to demand our own rights to locally govern ourselves..That is what devolution does, it decentralizes administration, powers
and it is obvious LNC must be considered by the Interim Independent
Boundaries Review Commission (IIBRC).
Wr are waiting for their results… The meeting is still going on at the KICC. What is your advice mr brother Kibiru..See More3 hours ago · · -
Michael KibiruGo Go my brother go!!!!!1…
I
am sure with respect to our distinct rich cultural & economic
activities which can go far in developing our land & neighbours, the
committe will bow to our demands for Laikipia North Constituency..But there i…s
a big issues on the boundaries where the haves in Laikipia North
intended to have the ranches excluded from the constituency to continue
benefiting in expense of the communitynat large.We can go far;
we can do greate things to dleiver ourselves from the bondage of
illetracy, diseases, poverty and conflicts if only in solidarity.See Moreabout an hour ago · -
Saidimu Ole NgaisBrother
Kibiru: I have no words to express my delightfulness that you are
VOTING YES IN YOUR DEEPEST CONSCIENCE. Please allow me to ask our sister
J. Lekoona to also change her mind. Our new to be Laikipia North
Constituency will include th…e
ranches. We will see to it that it does. Again, we owe this YES vote to
our forefathers who fought for us and to our coming generations who
awaits our decisive action on the 4th of August 2010.
Brother kibiru,
As we discussed in our other forum, our cultures are so rich that we
can sell it to the entire world and all the income shall be invested in
building our welfare. August 4th is not final but only an opening to the
gates of freedom. However, we will refuse to run out of slavery to
Canaan just because you fear the desert and the warring entities along
the way.
In Mukogodo, I just confirm on telephone that only an area
chief and a former higher ranking National leader who are on the NO
side. My Mother Sokoyian(Enkayioni Ole Mayiani;) and my daddy (Nkera
Oosieuri) and all my mother and fathers in Mukogodo and Endana are all
on the Right side of History.
Talking on phone, agents of change on
the ground in Endana said that there are about two Ruto’s(No) in the
area. Asked why one of the RUTOS voting no, I don’t know – the RUTO
answered. Because the former higher ranking Mukogodo Maasai leader is
voting NO.
I happy to announce that we have reached a consensus with
the two RUTO’s in Endana and now they are perfectly on the RIGHT side of
HISTORY.
Brother M. Kibiru, thank you for such a nice conversation
we had. I was touched and and I also feel for you because you are in the
same situation as I am. We share the sorrows of this loving nation but
on the 4th of August, some things will just have to be very different!!!
Now, ensure that you help us convince J. Lekoona because her vote is so needed.
Thank you so much.See More2 minutes ago · ·
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Comments (1)
Could someone please post a link to a copy of the document, the new proposed Constitution?